Brews, Beards, & Shipwrecks

Because everyone has a story. A podcast focused on music, culture, beer, beards, faith and doubt.

November 5th, 2018    

Ep. 24: DJ Sean P chats with Flatline and Chunjay about supporting the family, building a business, and the big issues of life

DJ Sean P with Chunjay and Flatline of Royal Ruckus

Sean gives us the rundown on his background

Turntables from the thrift shop, figuring out how to make money deejaying,

“How do you be a dad? How do you have a house? And how do you be a creative, and in everything be honest and true?” - DJ Sean P

“Balance is in the back and forth, but it’s never center.” - Flatline

“Priorities are never balanced either. Right? So… You have a few, very important priorities, and everything else is not a priority.” - DJ Sean P

“It was never really an option for me to not have a creative space.” - DJ Sean P

“I feel like I never work, but I always work.” - Chunjay

Flatline on the Songs in an Hour project he did under the name MPWalker

Flatline: On taking time off work, doing small jobs, and working on music creatively

Snippet from “Flowers on Good Friday” by Royal Ruckus, Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated

“Summer’s Last Call” by Royal Ruckus, The Summer of the Cicadas

“Kinda like too much freedom, gives you too much choice, therefore you can never make a choice.”

“I have a priority of life. For me it’s God, my wife, my family, my church….everything else is not on that priority.” - DJ Sean P

Sean keeps a journal and a weekly appointment with a friend for mental health

“Either I’m full of life or full of death. It’s like I need to guide this, I need to focus this thing.” - DJ Sean P

On goal setting

The Goal100 call (23 minutes)

Sean hustling those beats for cash, beat battles, and so on

BIG HIGHS, BIG LOWS

“I ended up just being in and out of these huge states of depression, and immobility. There’s a point where I didn’t leave my bed. I was frozen with fear…. I didn’t know what was going. I knew I needed help.” - DJ Sean P

Sean opens up about his suicidal thoughts.

On romanticizing dying

Flatline shares his own thoughts on the subject, along with raising kids

“It was more like stop chasing money, and start chasing mental health necessities. There’s always times you can slip in dark places. And I feel like acknowledging that is great. Also, like, talking about, so other people know that it’s okay they feel the same way.” - Flatline

“You shouldn’t keep it to yourself, you should get help.” - DJ Sean P

“I think sometimes the greatest gift you can give somebody is just listening. Or saying, ‘I get it, me too.’” - Chunjay

“This has not been a short road. I started having these ideations at 13,” said DJ Sean P. “I know what you mean, absolutely,” replied Flatline.

DJ Sean P on God’s work in your life in the midst of brokenness

“People are always going to disappoint you, and you are always going to disappoint people. It’s inevitable. We try not to, but it’s going to happen from time to time.” - Chunjay

“Weight in Gold” by Playdough (Krum) and Sean Patrick, We Buy Gold

On coffee, on technology

On types of tacos, extended discussion of tacos.

“U Know Who I Am” by Royal Ruckus with DJ Sean P from Royalty Check

On Podcasts, on mixing, and so on

“We all have insecurities. But we have to know what’s insecurity and what is poor planning.” - DJ Sean P

On his current endeavors with video and audio

“They Reminisce Over You” by Pete Rock and CL Smooth

"Phony Rappers" by A Tribe Called Quest

Shoutouts: CookBook, ManChild of Mars ILL, Playdough/KRUM, Theory Hazit, Oakcliff Coffee Roasters, The Bible Project, Stretch & Bobbito’s What’s Good, The Liturgist Podcast, The 9 Club, Just Thinking,

 

 

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September 7th, 2018    

Ep. 23: Renata Zarro and Chunjay discuss teaching, spoken word poetry, and “home” as a dirty word

Renata Zarro and Chunjay discuss teaching writing, spoken word poetry, and “home” as a dirty word

 

Intro—Who is Renata?

On teaching in general, Language Arts in particular.

How did she decide to become a teacher?

“As stressful as it may be at times, I love it.” - Renata

George Grant: “Love what you love in front of your students.”

Echinachea tea. Coffee.

On beards.

 

Sponsor spot: DrSquatch.com soaps and natural cologne

Two guys quit their jobs and started a soap company

 

Marvel and DC Movies. Batman. DC Comics. Marvel.

The Chrises and the Toms.

Chris Pratt. Chris Evans. Chris Hemsworth.

Tom Holland. Tom Hiddleston.

Spoken word poetry. Jeanette Hickman.

“I perform better when the audience is bought in.”

 

“Shipwreck Me”

 

“The Waitress Song”

 

On family difficulties and on real life situations put into poetry or song.

“I think as artists, even things are now scars, and are no longer open wounds, we can still feel those scars. We can still remember that pain, remember those emotions. And we can use those scars, those ghosts of our pasts, to help others in their present.”

“That’s the healing process of art. It’s healing for me to write it, and it’s healing for me to perform it. And when I do perform it, it’s healing to others.”

 

On surrounding yourself with others who can critique what you do.

Shout out to kidDEAD.

She likes a grammarian edit, and a stylistic edit.

“I joke that I’m like a closet romantic. I never share it.”

 

“Home is a Dirty Word”

 

“We share our scars so others can heal.”

On dealing with chronic illness.

 

“Dragon Slayer”

 

On being single and navigating the casual meetings.

Renata shares a story about telling a guy when she was uncomfortable. Practical tips for women to assert no and deter harassment.

Shoutout to Subculture Coffee.

“Hey, it makes me uncomfortable. I need my space. Give me a little space.”

Acknowledge what he said, but restate. Use body language.

Don’t be flirty with your friend.

 

“If we all just started respecting each other, none of those issues would happen.” - Chunjay

 

Renata loves tacos! Mixed chicken and beef. “At-home Chipotle.”

On Puerto Rican and Italian food at home. On Renata’s mother. On Puerto Rico. On coqui frogs.

Snippet from “Closer Than You Think” from the Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated.

Reading young adult stories. “Locomotion” poetry book.

Shout out to Lecrae. Song: “Gotta Know”

#renataspeaks @renataspeaks

@RoyalRuckus @RoyalRuckusOfficial

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May 28th, 2018    

Ep. 22: Doug Bennett and Chunjay discuss human trafficking, getting clean and sober, and the many uses of avocado (with Chunjay’s mom, Kathy)

Doug Bennett and Chunjay discuss human trafficking, getting clean and sober, and the many uses of avocado (with Chunjay's mom, Kathy)

 

The many uses of avocado.

17 year meth addiction.

On how adultery led Doug to Jesus.

On drunkenness.

“Wine is from God, but the drunkard is from the devil.” - Increase Mather

On heroin.

“Using with a prostitute in a hotel in the red light district That’s something I don’t want to ever forget. (14:30)

On Mormonism. On being molested.

"I Love You (and You and You and You and You)"

"Ghosts of Women Past" is somewhere in here, too.

“I carried that shame and that guilt and that condemnation for 25 years or so.” - Doug

“Unforgiveness is like you drinking poison and expecting the other person to get sick. So when I was able to forgive that person...I got free, myself, which was wonderful.” - Doug

Call or text Doug at 661-808-HOPE (4673) if you need to talk.

Episode 20 with David Bunker.

Chunjay on virtue. 

“I think the best investment we can make on this earth is in other people. I don’t think it’s in stocks and bonds or property.” - Doug 

The lava flows in Hawaii.

Bennett family history.

Magdalene Hope. Rescue mission.

Oildale (a section of Bakersfield) is the meth capitol of the world.

A story about rescuing a woman and her kid.

How does a person become a trafficker? How does a person become trafficked?

Guerrilla trafficking, Romeo pimps/lover boy trafficking

"Multi-Purpose Room 2"

Rescue Grounds Coffee

Restoration Ranch Women’s Shelter

"Postcards from the Road"

Coffee talk.

Fasting talk.

MagdaleneHope.org, RescueGrounds.com

Tacos!

On Beers.

Royal Ruckus Presents... series of EPs.

“I paid for that album with my inheritance from Grandpa.” “I spent mine on methamphetamine!”

Chunjay’s mom joins the podcast. She used to live in Compton.

“World’s Okayest Rapper”

Magdalene Hope on Facebook

@MHDoug on insta and Twitter

Chunjay’s recommendation on making amends for sexual brokenness.

Snippet from: “Samson (You Are Not)” Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated album 

Editing goof-up! Back on how to make amends.

Closing thoughts, Ruckus socials.

jamey@jameyb.com

@royalruckus @royalruckusofficial

“Take the Leap” 

Anyone want to buy EnjoyingBeer.com?

On beards! Santa Claus with neck tattoos!

Pomade to hair, shampoo, no conditioner, have the barber trim the facial hair.

 “This White Life”

Chunjay continues hair car tips. The #nopoo method.

On Beastie Boys.

Closing song: “Rhymin’ and Stealin’”

Shouts: Cleansing Streams ministry, St. Mark Greek Orthodox Church (Boca Raton, FL) Sunday School, Bethel & The River Network, Breaking Bad, Beastie Boys, The Daniel Fast, Taco Nazo in Tijuana, Wolf Among Weeds IPA from Golden Road Brewery, Tosh.0, Samson Society, Treasures with Harmony, Pigeon John, NWA, House of Pain, Everlast, Lengthwise, Jesus Shack, Ben Folds.

 All music from World's Okayest Rapper EP.

http://worldsokayestrapper.com

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May 7th, 2018    

Ep. 21: Mara Henderson and Chunjay discuss Health, Faith, Nerdiness, and Father Hunger

Pennsylvania. Colorado. Teaching preschool. On being 4’ 8”.

Food. Health. GAPS Diet. Healing from arthritis. Journey through veganism. Sauerkraut. Probiotics. “A good sauerkraut should take three months.”

Mara’s music. Her siblings. Singing in church.

Orthodox Christian Chants (facebook page).

 

“Take the Leap” by Royal Ruckus from World’s Okayest Rapper EP.

 

Nerddom. On drifting away from her dad. On reconnecting with her parents. Hagia Sophia Coffee.

 

“Lost Boys” by Royal Ruckus from The Summer of the Cicadas double LP.

 

Chunjay on his step-father.

 

On conversion to Orthodoxy.

 

“Bizarre, exotic, ancient faith.” - Chunjay

 

On unschooling. On anabaptism. On being an awkward teenager. On Messianic Judaism.

 

Fr. James Bernstein and Jews for Jesus. Ancient Faith Radio. On experiencing God vs. listing beliefs about God.

 

Jerusalem. How we got the Bible. On being a musician and searching for a church. On leaving evangelicalism. On Anglicanism. On hiking and bonfires.

 

Becoming Orthodox by Fr. Peter Gillquist

The Orthodox Church and The Orthodox Way by Metropolitan Kallistos Ware

 

On beards and manly men. On mani-pedis.

 

On reading and listening. The Pearl that Broke Its Shell novel.

 

@theveggal

@royalruckus

@royalruckusofficial

 

Shout out to NoiseTrade and Bandcamp.

GAPS, Arthritis, Theology, Dads, Healthy Food, Orthodoxy and Cults, Performing for God,

#gaps #gapsdiet #arthritis #paleo #health #ancestralhealth #theology #dads #daddyissues #healthyfood #orthodoxy #cults #performingforgod #evangelicalism #kallistosware #orthodoxchurch #worldsokayestrapper #sauerkraut #probiotics #coffee

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March 28th, 2018    

Ep. 20: David Bunker Chats with Chunjay about Sexual Abuse, Recovery Groups, Postmodernism, Whiskey and Wine

 

David and Chunjay discuss where they are and what they are doing for the weekend. David discusses the ups and downs of therapy. On the collapse of silence. What is lacking? Sometimes it’s not stuff. On living within the evangelical subculture. Discussing whiskey.

On Jamey and David’s friendship, and the wisdom David imparted to him. On sharing stories. David is working on a project called Postmodern Hymns. On Christianity and Art. On the narrative of faith giving way to the narrative of consumption. On how Christian music has become a safe soccer mom thing. On John Reuben saying “shit” on his new record. Lots of other stuff. :)

Kenosis - about emptying, not acquiring knowledge. On success vs. vulnerability. On being helpful to friends.

 

Great lines from David:

“Sex is a gift or a curse, depending on how you handle it.”

“Maybe postmodernity and consumption are not the best thing for the soul.”

“I’m an older guy trying to figure out, ‘What is my legacy?’”

“I get to be around children a lot. I find that the older I get, the more and more children make. They’re still vibrant about life.”

“In ancient cultures, there was a lot more storytelling, and people had those stories inform them.”

“As the consumption became more important than the proclamation, the proclamation got dumbed down, and the consumption went up, and so now it’s bad art, and it’s trying to talk about God simultaneously. It’s like, oh, crap, we don’t need more of this.”

“Any guy who wants to walk in integrity with his sexuality knows that he needs assistance.”

“I think self is much more communal. It’s not just communal in the sense of you’re meant to be a part of something bigger than yourself. You don’t become yourself until you understand you’re a part of something bigger than yourself. There’s a mutuality to it.”

“What part of my life am I in denial about? Because I think somehow what has happened to  me in the past when I did those things, it wouldn’t happen again. What would lead me to believe that I could somehow bypass that? And when somebody tells you the story of where they’re at, it’s a reminder of their mutual vulnerability.”

“Our culture doesn’t teach us to wait for the good stuff.”

“I was trying to act like I was angry, because that was what I was told to do. The truth is, I had to get in touch with how pervasive those acts had…affected me, made me afraid of people, made me stand-offish, made me fearful of intimacy, made me distrustful of EVERYBODY. I’m talking at a deep level. Physically distrustful.”

“And of course it fed into some of my weaknesses, like rather than be in a healthy sexual relationship, I would be more of a voyeur. I would stand apart. I didn’t know how to be in my body, because I left my body as a 6 year old kid.”

“I’ve had to realize that not going to that place and processing that was very dangerous for my soul. I didn’t know it, but it was forming in me this sense that I was what happened to me.”

“And we often tend to think like we are what happened to us. So if somebody divorces me unfairly, if someone abuses me unfairly, fires us unfairly, says something to us that’s unfair, there’s this part of us, the little kid inside, ‘Well, I guess that’s who I am.’ And then we start making decisions that affirm that. And then one day we wake up and find that we’re the perpetrator that hurt us.”

“Now, it’s more of a protecting myself by believing what’s beautiful about me, what’s beautiful and true. And not what’s dark and hidden.”

“Before I was trying to be angry because people would say, ‘Oh, he’s working on it.’”

“Do you like tacos?” “Look at me, sure.”

 

Lines from Chunjay:

“The intent and context. I played a couple of ‘Christian’ shows this summer, and I really am trying to avoid doing that. The must that I am writing now belongs in bars and breweries, and coffee shops where adults are. And I remember playing my first youth group in more than a decade. And I cut two songs out. It’s not that I said anything that was technically wrong, but gosh, our lead song is ‘The Waitress Song,’ and we talk about drinking rum and Coke, and asking the waitress for her phone number, and that is not what I’m trying to put in front of 14 years old.”

 

What are we drinking:

David Bunker: Riesling Wine

Jamey Bennett: 1816 Chattanooga Whiskey, a Yuengling

 

David Bunker’s info:

Find him on Facebook, and look up the notes if you friend him.

 

Chunjay’s info:

@royalruckus, @royalruckusofficial, @justjamey, @jameybennett, http://pledgemusic.com/projects/worldsokayestrapper

 

Others:

http://samsonsociety.org

http://newadamweekend.org

 

Featured songs:

“Never…” by Royal Ruckus (featuring Jeremiah Dirt and Manchild of Mars Ill and Deepspace5) from The Summer of the Cicadas

“The Waitress Song” by Royal Ruckus from The Summer of the Cicadas

“Shipwreck” by CookBook and Uno.Mas from the Robertson Bullies EP

“How Does It Feel?”  by Royal Ruckus (featuring Shedlyn) from The Summer of the Cicadas

“The Chicken-Filled Donut Caper” by Royal Ruckus

Closing song: “Doin’ It My Way” by Buckshot LeFonque

Shout outs: Mary Oliver, The Waste Makers book, a men’s social group Whiskey & Iron, Randy Newman, Sixpence None the Richer, Argyle Park, Cornerstone, Burning Man, Pedro the Lion, Neal Morse, John Reuben, AudioFeed Festival, Samson Society, New Adam, Nate Larkin, Metanoia, The Samson House, Orthodoxy, Richard Rohr, Sam Kem.

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February 25th, 2018    

Ep. 19: Flatline and Chunjay return to discuss two decades in the music business, approaches to music production, drinking coffee, and facing difficulties in life.

In this third episode featuring Flatline aka Michael Walker aka MPWalker, Flatline and Chunjay talk about their lives and music after Flicker Records, living in record deal purgatory, and then finding their way forward without a label. They talk a little bit about a children’s project that they worked on, and how they ultimately stuck it out after a little bit of career disappointment.

At the same time, the guys talk about how short-sightedness can affect an artist’s career.

Due to technical difficulties, there are a few choppy places and possibly some sections of repeated material. It was a fun conversation.

Features songs from the unreleased Jimmy and the Zoo Crew project, and tracks from the 2011 Royal Ruckus album, Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated.

Shouts: CookBook of LA Symphony, Pigeon John, Jordan Uselton, Flicker Records, KRUM, Ill Harmonics, Josh Babyar, KJ-52, Gr8 Jason, Almnc, Eugene Mirman, Spokesman Coffee & Beer, Wu-Tang, Sackcloth Fashion, Syntax Records, and Jeremiah Dirt of Shadow of the Locust.

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December 15th, 2017    

Ep. 18: Christmas Hip-Hop Special: Chunjay impersonates a DJ and plays some great holiday tunes.

Ep. 18: Christmas Hip-Hop Special: Chunjay impersonates a DJ and plays some great holiday tunes.

The Christmas Episode

Winsky Fiesta Terrace in west LA

What am I drinking? Deschutes Brewery stout from Oregon

Background Music from Akira the Don’s Litmas. http://Akirathedon.bandcamp.com

Clips from

Run DMC – Christmas Is
Christmas Rappin’ Kurtis Blow
Cold Chillin’ Christmas by the Juice Crew
Fuck you if you don’t like Christmas by Crudbump
Run the Jewels – A Christmas Fucking Miracle
Merry Muthafuckin Xmas by Eazy-E
Snoop Doggy Dogg ft. Daz Dillinger, Nate Dogg, Tray Deee, Bad Azz - "Santa Claus Goes Straight to the Ghetto"
Puff Daddy with Run DMC, Mase, Salt n Pepa, Onyx, Keith Murray, Snoop Dogg
Toy Jackpot by Blackalicious 

Interlude – Shitter’s Full

Royal Ruckus – In The Trap of the Mountain King https://royalruckus.bandcamp.com/album/lonely-christmas 

Wet Bandits – Counterfeit Money Machine https://invisiblelibrary.bandcamp.com/album/no-sleep-till-christmas

The Santa Clause – Out of Place and Spoken Nerd 

LA Symphony It’s Christmas

Christmas by Krispy Kreme aka Froggy Fresh

We Three Kings – Pettidee, Knowdaverbs, Bonafide

Spoken Nerd Christmas Time in the Club 

LA Symphony Christmas Song

Royal Ruckus - The Christmas I Didn’t Want - https://noisetrade.com/royalruckus/17-candles

 KJ-52 – It’s Christmas Time

Thee Three Kings by Max.One, DJ Promote, Redcloud, Jeremiah Bonds, and Kaboose

Royal Ruckus – Lonely Christmas

Royal Ruckus - Sleep Now, Children

 

O Holy Night by Sufjan Stevens

Silent Night by Sufjan Stevens

Star of Wonder/None Shall Pass – Sufjan, DJ Tor, Aesop Rock

Favorite Christmas Rap Song of All Time? Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC

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December 4th, 2017    

Ep. 17: Knowdaverbs Chats with Chunjay: A conversation on hip-hop, belief in God, and perfecting your art.

Brews, Beards, Shipwrecks Podcast. //This is a first! Two new episodes in one day! Enjoy this Monday two-fer.//

Michael Boyer, aka Knowdaverbs, sits down with Chunjay to compare notes.

 

How we met. How he got the idea to leave Phoenix and move to Nashville.

Clips from “The Latte, Latte Show” from Royal Ruckus’s Self-Titled album.

Rooming with Coffee and Bonafide of GRITS. DJ Form. 1996-2004, roommates, label mates, and tour mates.

Soup the Chemist album listening party—“The James Brown of Christian Hip-Hop.” The article by Chunjay: https://web.archive.org/web/20030427172424/http://www.razormouth.com:80/archives/00000012.htm

Chunjay test-drove Verbs’s Range Rover.

 

“Moment of Zen” by Royal Ruckus from The Summer of the Cicadas.

 

How did you decide to become a rapper?

On a life-changing conversion.

 

“Prepaid” by Knowdaverbs (featuring GRITS and Nirva Dorsaint) from the Verbs: Unlocked album.

 

On becoming a Christian rapper. Started writing raps at 12. Went to an SFC show and met Soup and DJ Dove.

Following the Christian rap scene.

On getting signed to Gotee Records.

On spending too much time with your friends.

 

“Call of the Dung Beetle” by Knowdaverbs (featuring Pigeon John and GRITS) from The Syllabus LP.

 

On reuniting with the crew.

On his various records released. Chunjay once made a display for him in a store.

What caused Knowdaverbs to go out on his own. Does he have more music in front of him?

Knowdaverbs on his faith and how he desires to express it.

On being a dad and a husband and growing in faith. 

On seasons in life.

On creating art and sharing it with others.

 

“What Do You Think of That?” by Knowdaverbs from The Action Figure.

 

On battling to create your best art vs. industry pressures.

“There are things God allows us to go through to burn things into us or burn things out of us.”

Knowdaverbs on how he views success in artists, and glorying God.

On relying on God.

 

SHIPWRECKS!

Knowdaverbs had his confidence shaken in God about 8 years ago. He began to study to explore his faith deeper.

Wizard of Oz’s man behind the curtain.

The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel.

Knowdaverb’s faith now.

Chunjay on his own faith in Christ and why.

Chunjay on St. Ignatius the martyr, and early Christian history.

On willingness to die as a martyr.

 

“Transmissional” by Royal Ruckus (featuring Spoken Nerd and Bobby Exodus) from Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated. 

 

On beard care. On beard oils. RR beard oil available here: http://royalruckus.bandcamp.com/merch

Knowdaverbs loves sandalwood.

Knowdaverbs loves Baja fish tacos.

Hip-hop pet peeves?

 

“Screen Door” by GRITS (featuring Knowdaverbs) from Mental Releases.

 

Chunjay on A Tribe Called Quest, and how they recorded their last record. Everyone had to be in the studio to work together!

“Think of how the listener benefits from the level of art that gets created for that situation. We used to do that all that all the time, man. Somebody would go in and just kill it, and you’d be like, ‘Hold up, give me about 20 more minutes while I rewrite my verse.’”

Podcast recommendation: Tim Keller from Redeemer Church in New York.

Reader recommendation: Russell Moore.

 

Social: @iknowverbs

Chunjay's Socials: @royalruckus and @royalruckusofficial 

Shoutouts: Grits, DC Talk, Out of Eden, Steve Curtis Chapman, Reese Witherspoon, Donna Summers, Tower Records, Travis Tritt, Soup the Chemist and his book “Through My Windows,” Cross Movement, Steven Wiley’s Bible Break, T-Bone, Dynamic Twins, Idol King, Kroger deli, J-King, Pigeon John, Aaron Porter, Zeitgeist movie, Baja Burrito, Blue Coast Burritos, Das Efx, Leaders of the New School, Souls of Mischief.

 

Background music by Gangstarr, Royal Ruckus.

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December 4th, 2017    

Ep. 16: Tacos and Whiskey with Photographer Jeb Wilson: A conversation about hip-hop conspiracy theories, running your own business, drinking whiskey, and misadventures in modern dating.

 

Jeb Wilson of Nashville Photography Group is our guest for Episode 16.

 

Jeb hates spam. Can you curse on this podcast?

Punk rock kid, ska kid, hip-hop kids.

On similarities between punk and hip-hop cultures.

Did the LAPD kill 2Pac?

“Elvis Presley, Notorious, and 2Pac were way to big of ego maniacs to ever disappear.”

On the KKK marching in the Christmas parade in Oildale.

 

“Dial It Up” by Royal Ruckus from Rumors of Our Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated, available at RoyalRuckus.Bandcamp.com and pretty much everywhere you can stream music.

 

Chunjay talks about the history of Al Pastor tacos. Again.

Catching up with Jeb.

Talking about Mike Walker aka Flatline. How Flatline quit his job at the movie theatre.

On working at Starbucks,

http://neopolis.me/post/4989953615/some-time-ago-i-worked-at-starbucks-with-my-pal

Jeb burps, and Chunjay censors it.

How he gradually found himself doing photography.

“When it comes down to it, it’s something my grandfather used to say, ‘Hard work pays off.’”

Biggie documentary: http://www.aetv.com/specials/biggie-the-life-of-notorious-big

“When people aren’t doing well in business stuff, the first thing I look at is, ‘What’s your work ethic?’ Are you putting in the time?”

On awards that Jeb has won for photography.

On making music videos.

On setting goals. Weekly Goal100 accountability phone call with Cookbook of LA Symphony.

On making checklists and setting parameters. Recommended app: EverNote.

On going to movies and art museums for inspiration and ideas.

On Flat Earth view of Antarctica. On BOB raising money to prove the earth is flat.

 

“Sunshine California” (Demo) by Royal Ruckus from Seventeen Candles, available free at NoiseTrade.com/RoyalRuckus

 

Chunjay and Jeb leave the taco truck and go back to Jeb’s  house for a chat.

Chunjay is drinking a Dogfishhead 60 Minute IPA. 

On craft beer and breweries. On bourbons.

Lemon juice + bourbon + honey = nommmmm

On carbonated coffee with bourbon.

The AudioFeed Festival, and Jay Newman.

A fun story about California rappers Royal Ruckus being on tour in Michigan in a Dodge Caravan with no scraper, no heater, and only blankets.

Actress and model Savannah Clare Edwards; a former student of Chunjay’s when he was a teacher; a model for Jeb; and featured in two Royal Ruckus videos. Janelle, we need to know: who do you love more?

 

“Shipwreck” by Cookbook and Uno.Mas from The Roberson Bullies EP.

 

“My dating life makes the Titanic look like a small tugboat going down in the Kern River.”

On the current dating landscape.

Chunjay’s theories on why dating is so messed up right now. 1. People are maturing later. Extended adolescence. 2. Use of pornography or hookups and how it sabotages relationships. 3. The illusion of extra options.

On embracing the single life. On traveling alone.

Olivia Chug gets a shout-out by Chunjay. Jeb groans.

On Chewbacca, Star Wars, and Disney.

On giving back to the community. On serving the homeless.

Jeb’s favorite taco is a spicy carne asada taco. Against cheese on tacos. “I want to taste the pigeon and the cat fully on the taco.”

Podcast recommendation: The Son of a Gun Podcast (Josh Vietti), The Robcast (Rob Bell), Tactical Talk (Allison Barrie), This Is Why You’re Single (Laura Lane and Angela Spera).

Jeb’s socials: @thejebwilson on instagram

Chunjay’s socials: @royalruckus and @royalruckusofficial

 

Favorite song? “Juicy” by Notorious BIG.

Shoutouts: NWA, 2Pac, Notorious BIG, working as a Starbucks barista, Yazoo, Turtle Anarchy, Mayday Brewery, Dogfishhead, Spoken Nerd and Invisible Library Records, Big Bang Theory, Twins featuring Danny Devito and Arnold Schwartzenneger, Modern Romance by Aziz Ansari (https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Romance-Aziz-Ansari/dp/0143109251), The Walking Dead.

Background music by Metal Fingers, Special Herbs Vol. 12.

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November 28th, 2017    

Ep. 15: Coffee with KJ: Chunjay and rapper KJ-52 discuss Christian music labels, Cuban coffee, and bouncing back after tough times.

KJ-52 and Chunjay sit down for coffee in Florida and reflect on their experiences in hip-hop and the Christian hip-hop subgenre.

 

Little Cuban cafe, on KJ discovering Cuban colada coffee. KJ does not enjoy pour over coffee.

Chunjay eating a Cubano sandwich.

On what KJ-52 is up to: crowdfunding new album, videos, documentary. Adding public speaking to rapping.

“I’m coming from the perspective of a 42 year old man. I’m not coming from where I was when I was 25 and came into the industry….I’m an old MacBook Pro with updated software.”

KJ-52’s struggle after his record deal with Essential ended. Shopping to Nashville record labels. Ended up with Tooth & Nail/Uprok. 

KJ on Flicker Records: “Then they turned round and signed you guys, and I was so ticked off.”

 

“Revenge of the Nerds” by KJ-52 with Pigeon John from the KJ-52 Remixed album.

 

On figuring out his niche, and finding a way forward. On catching criticism for things he did.

On his “backpack rapper” origins with Sons of Intellect and Shadow of the Locust.

“I always looked at every record as ‘starting over.’”

On his platform, not just “youth group rapper.”

History: Goatee led him to Todd Collins. Todd took him to Essential.

On the KJ-52/Royal Ruckus tour of Maui in 2001.

On Royal Ruckus: “You two were the most interesting, hilarious, weird people I’d ever hung out with in a long time. And I think because of that, I was like, ‘I’m really drawn to these guys, cause they’re so bizarre, but so like, genuinely themselves.’ And I think that resonated with me.”

On getting sunburnt in Hawaii.

 

“Cheese Rappers in Paradise” (Demo) by Royal Ruckus from Seventeen Candles. Available free at noisetrade.com/royalruckus.

 

On crossing paths with each other in Nashville, TN and Bakersfield, CA.

“I’ve played in Bakersfield so many times.”

Headlining the “White Privilege Conference” in the middle of Iowa.

Awkward experiences on tour.

 

“Moment of Zen” by Royal Ruckus from The Summer of the Cicadas LP. Listen for KJ-52 and T-Bone reference in the song.

 

“I helped Kirk Cameron get through the priority line at Delta.”

 

“Shipwreck” by Cookbook and Uno.Mas from The Robertson Bullies EP.

 

“Once you’re about 10 years in [the music industry], you become irrelevant.”

On a near-career shipwreck. Paraphrase: I went from getting a couple grand shows to getting $250 a show locally, if I was lucky.

Finding alternate ways to survive and stay in his own lane. Graffiti. School assemblies. Being a pastor. Rapping still.

“It’s like I wrecked the ship, took the wood, and built a house.”

 

“Fight Music” by KJ-52 featuring Lecrae and Propaganda, from the album, Mental.

 

On KJ’s lack of facial hair.

KJ loved street tacos in Baja, Mexico, and Korean-fusion tacos in San Francisco.

KJ recommended podcasts: What She Wants (formerly Ask Women), Sexy Marriage Radio, Stuck in the 80s, and The Cypher Show.

KJ on women: they don’t want men to be nice, they want ALPHA.

“I realized how technically challenged some of my fanbase is. So I was like, ‘How can I make this as simple as possible?’”

KJ52 Podcast. @kj52 at twitter and facebook, @kj52instagram for insta.

“Let me say, and I dig your podcast, too. Because I like how you explore back stories.”

On having something to say, and less to lose. On having John Reuben on his documentary and not being able to use it.

“It Takes Two” by Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock was the game changer song for KJ-52. The second would be “Welcome to the Terradome” by Public Enemy. Third: “Ain’t No Joke” by Eric B. and Rakim. De La Soul: “Me Myself and I.”

Shouts to Propaganda, Pigeon John, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, Pillar, Pax 217, Rebecca St. James, producer Tedd T., Todd Collins, Flynn Adam, Krum (Playdough), Jesus Shack, Spirit West Coast, Kirk Cameron, Tako Cheena in Orlando, NF vs. Lecrae album sales, John Reuben, Cookbook from LA Symphony, Jars of Clay, more.

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